Talk: lipu lawa

toki pona li jo e ilo Wikipesija! o a! mi sona ala e ni: ni li pona ala pona. --jan Nikita

english feedback

there should be an english readable link from the main page to post a comment on an english language feedback. it could link back to wikipedia:en:Toki Pona, too. -- grin

ale jan lipu

toki, Sorry to intrude, but I just wanted to suggest that you look at the Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion of biographies on the English Wikipedia and consider adapting it for toki pona. I'm concerned that the current lax criteria you have detracts from this being a serious encyclopedia. If you are going to be at all like the other language Wikipedias, then pages like Wikipesija:Community Portal would be best in the Wikipesija namespace, and the pages linked from it be user pages rather than articles. Angela 23:17, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

jan Angela o! mi sona e ni: lipu sona pi toki ante li jo e jan suli ante li jo e lawa sona ante. tenpo ni la jan pi toki pona li ken lon suli tawa jan ante pi toki ni.

ijo mute li suli tawa lipu Wikipesija lon toki Inli la li suli lili tawa lipu lon toki pona.

ijo mute li suli tawa lipu lon toki pona la li suli lili tawa lipu lon toki Inli. jan Kaj 23:44, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

I disagree. If people are not famous or notable enough to have articles in the English Wikipedia, they should not have them here either. Just because it is a different language does not mean the inclusion standards should be reduced. It is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a record of who is involved in the world of toki pona. Do you think these people are encyclopedic? I realise the criteria were developed with the English Wikipedia in mind, but that does not mean they should be completely ignored here. Angela 13:35, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Angela, I do see you point, and I agree generally about the 'criteria', however, obviously it's all very culture dependant, for example, most Latvian pop singers would not be getting written about in the English Wikipedia. Personally, I don't really mind your name-space moving suggestion, or even to move most of them into 'User' pages. However, I see nothing wrong with the way things are. We still don't really know what's 'toki-pona' culture and codes will be like (do we?), 'jan pi toki pona' might or might not turn out to be a very important in the long run. You're saying the inclusion standarts shouldn't be reduced just for it being a different language, however, obviously, every language has not necessarily 'lower', but different 'inclusion' standarts. It's not so hard to imagine a culture in which football players are not concidered something notable, or a culture in which road-sign painters are stars, it is?

I do apoligise for spinning out. jan Kaj 14:49, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Actually, we do have articles on Latvian pop singers. Try Marie N or Brainstorm. -- user:zanimum

Interlanguage links

Uhm, since this 'pedia does not have a two letter abbreviation, doesn't that mean that pages can't be linked to this language from other languages? For example, see wikipedia:en:City. At the bottom of the page, there is a link to the corresponding toki pono page, instead of where it should go, which is at the top. This seems like a pretty serious problem to me. -Braaropolis 05:07, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

True... and strange, since I'm sure it used to work. -- jan Pili 12:59, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

The developers are aware of this. Angela 13:35, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

List of articles all languages should have

toki! Do you know wikipedia:m:List of articles all languages should have? Can we translate it into toki pona? What do you think about it? e-Goat 01:53, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

sidebar

How do we edit entries on that sidebar? Some of them are still English.

"Community portal" lipu pi kulupu wikipesija

"Help" pakala ala

"Related changes" ante tawa lipu seme

"upload file" pana seme

"special pages" lipu pi sona nasa

New name

This should not be called a Wikipedia anymore since it officially isn't one. Is there something better than a generic "encyclopedia" name this wiki could be given? Angela 21:21, 9 Dec 2004 (PST)

Maybe it could be lipu sona Tokipesija ;) —jan sama soweli Miku

I feel "lipu sona wikipesija ala" is more accurate

taso tenpo pini la, ni li lipu sona Wikipesija. mi pilin tan ni e ni: it's not accurate, especially in TP itself, and also misleading to those led here by the Wikipedia notice saying that the content of tokipona.wikipedia.org was moved here. Besides, "Not Wikipedia" is hardly a good name. It'd be like calling Coke "Not Pepsi" or something. —jan sama soweli Miku 08:14, 24 Dec 2004 (PST)

if "Not Wikipedia" is hardly a good name, how about "Wikipedia"? As I understand what's going on here, this _is_ a Wikipedia or ex-wikipedia page, that for whatever reason what so ever, wikipedia "Authorities" do not wish to associate with the brand name 'wikipedia'. However, since the pages mostly seem to have followed wikipedia style, aims and regulations, I hardly see a better name. Probably I missing a certian delicate point, but let's say somebody 'mirrors' and forks wikipedia for example, on a wiki, which the GFDL should allow, is there any legal or rational reason not to call it 'wikipedia'?

"Wikipedia" is a trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, so a Wikia site can not use it. Nor can any other site using Wikipedia content. Angela 07:58, 3 Jan 2005 (PST)

They could if you let them. It is entirely your decision to not let them use "Wikipedia" or "Wikipesija". And since you are the WikiCrats on Wikia as well, if they don't comply rather than serving them with a lawsuit you can simply shut them down. How convenient!

Why would we let you use our trademark, for a project we got rid of? -- user:zanimum

Gee Zanimum, I don't recall you having any official position in the Wikimedia organisation... YOU didn't get rid of anything. jerk.

Related wikis

A Wikia related to this one is La malferma Esperanto-komunumo which is also in the constructed languages category. See Category:Wikia descriptions for other categories of Wikia. Angela 23:53, 27 Jan 2005 (PST)

æj kweśćn

iz it posibl, tu styl hæv ðe interwiki lynks (ie, toki -> en:Language, eo:Lingvo) 'wuerking', ænd pojnting tu ofiśl WikiPedia artiklz?

Not yet, but see bug 63. Angela 11:00, 31 Jan 2005 (PST)

Former redirects that should be deleted

Obsolete, not needed pages:

• See this page --- Greetings, Melancholie 18:33, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
  • Has been done! --Melancholie 09:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikicities is now called Wikia

Renamed words: "Wikicity", "Wikicities" -> "Wikia" ---Melancholie 09:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

o pana e sitelen

toki. mi wile sona e ni: lupa "o pana e sitelen" li weka tan seme? mi wile pana e sitelen tawa lipu sona ni. taso tenpo ni la mi ken ala. jan lawa li weka e lupa ni anu seme? sitelen mute li lon li ike tawa sina mute anu seme? ken la jan li toki pi ni tawa mi lon tenpo kama. ni li kama lon la mi pilin pona. pona, - jan Wasolitawa.

jan lawa pi lipu sona o toki. mi pilin pona tan ni: tenpo ni la poki "o pana e sitelen" li lon. taso mi pilin ike tan ni: ona li kepeken ala. mi ken "upload file" taso mi ken ala "insert image." ken la sina mute li pona e ni.

advertisement

Why there Google ads on the main page? Legat 21:08, 25 tenpo mun pi nanpa luka wan 2008 (UTC)Legat

Edits

lipu sona ni pi toki pona li wile ante mute e ijo mute. mi mute li ken ala ken pali e ni ? mi wile toki e ni: lipu mute li lili mute anu ike mute lon ni. ni li tan seme ? Jan Kapi 18:21, tenpo mun pi nanpa luka luka wan 16, 2011 (UTC)

mi weka e poki pi toki mute lon lipu lawa ni. mi pilin e ni: poki ni li pale e ala li wile ala lon. mi pilin e ni kin: mi mute li wile pali e mute lon lipu ni li wile ante e ike lon lipu Wikipesija ni. Jan Kapi 13:01, tenpo mun pi nanpa luka tu 18, 2012 (UTC)

ma Anku

This wiki uses the name "ma Anku" for both Koreas together, which is not correct. According to the Official Book by jan Sonja, "ma Anku" is only South Korea, which makes sense, because Toki Pona land names are based on the local name of the country.

"Anku" comes from 한국 (Hanguk. South Korean pronunciation: [ˈha̠ːnɡuk̚]), which is a word that is not used in North Korea. The North Korean word is 조선 (Joseon, North Korean pronunciation: [t͡sosʰɔn]), which would be "Soson" in Toki Pona. Using the name "ma Anku" for North Korea doesn't make a lot of sense, considering it comes from a South Korean term. And since the Official Book agrees with me on the meaning of "ma Anku", I advise using "ma Soson" for North Korea instead.

I thought I'd just quickly correct this in the pages about North and South Korea, but I as I changed the pages, I realized there are much more pages mentioning the two countries than I thought. And more importantly, I cannot move the page for South Korea to "ma Anku", because the name is already used to redirect to the page about both Koreas (which I renamed from "ma Anku" to "ma wan pi ma Anku en ma Sonko").

Sorry for making such sweeping changes without asking. I probably should have discussed here before making the changes. But I didn't realize the scale when I started editing, and I kinda got carried away. But could an admin please remove the redirect page at ma Anku and move ma Anku seli there?

Raziin (talk) 18:28, tenpo mun pi nanpa luka 5, 2017 (UTC)

PS: I just realized there are two pages about Pyongyang. ma tomo Ponjan and ma tomo Pijenjan. So these should be merged. "Ponjan" is a more accurate tokiponization of the North Korean pronunciation [pʰjɔŋ.jaŋ]. (The first vowel is pronounced more similar to "a" in the standard dialect of South Korea, so maybe that's where the "e" in "Pijenjan" came from) Raziin (talk) 18:46, tenpo mun pi nanpa luka 5, 2017 (UTC)

lipu lawa sin

What about this design of mainpage?

By the way, maybe wiki should be in Comic Sans? I think Comic Sans as a font musi is font pona for toki pona as toki pi musi mute.

here is an short example of akesi pi monsi kiwen:

akesi pi monsi kiwen li akesi. ona li jo e monsi kiwen. soweli ike li lon la akesi li ken lon insa monsi ona.
akesi ni li jo e sijelo kiwen walo insa. insa pi sijelo kiwen walo li jo e ala tan ni: insa li lon insa akesi.

p.s. i already did it in Template:lili